Episode 31: Maria Grazia Gonzalez Polar and Monarcas Peru
January 19th, 2011

Maria Grazia Gonzalez Polar became fascinated and concerned by the failings of the HIV=AIDS dogma and, at the urging of MD Roberto Giraldo, founded Monarcas Peru.

This interview with David Crowe and Terry Michael gives fascinating insights into the meaning of HIV and AIDS in Latin America, the groups that are targeted, and the sinister world of outsourcing of clinical trials to places where, even if the drugs worked, they could never be used and where, if there are serious side effects there is unlikely to be much attention.

“Episode 31: Maria Grazia Gonzalez Polar and Monarcas Peru” comments…
  1. Glenn (Amyl Nitrite Awareness League) says:

    Maria Grazia Gonzalez Polar, MD Roberto Giraldo and Monarcas Peru are true carers. If I am positive, as P is to Positive, as P is to Prevention, from my research, actions and understanding HIV1=H1N1=Swine/SpanishFlu, the logic is then that, unfortunately, other illnesses or stressors, have been misdiagnosed or overlooked in the past (P is for Past).

    P is for Paradigm in need of reassessing. Failure to notice these and other conditions comes from dogma, ignorance, megalomania, arrogance, envy, narcissism, projection, greed, Swiss bank accounts, other immune system, nutritional and oxidative stressors, diseases, and drug side effects themselves. My take on the wise Dr Giraldo in his valuable “Preventing and Healing AIDS Through Our Inner Pharmacy”.

    The P in Pharmacy should not necessarily come from one that is P for Pharmaceutical, particularly when the A in AIDS is acquired from pharmaceuticals (illicit and licit). Even condoms, lube, medical research and clinical trials from that last P.

    I now understand what Dr Giraldo meant by how arrogance, itself, could create AIDS. It is the arrogance of not exploring the truth and caring more about the true causes of these VERY opportunistic infections.

    We can no longer blame the HIV1/H1N1/Spanish/SwineFlu virus or even the AIDS definition itself for our losses. We should not blame ourselves or others, unless everyone still fails to take notice. And “Change, yes we can”.

    January 20, 2011 | 8:50 pm
  2. SwineHIN1SpanishHIV1_virus says:

    And stop blaming me. I’ve had a very bum rap over the years.

    2008. A John McCain interview on television has his stating: “If maybe we had implemented Teddy Kennedy’s health reforms all those years we wouldn’t be in this current mess”.

    January 21, 2011 | 7:40 pm
  3. GrimReaper says:

    O is for Oh My GOD !!!

    For the current paradigm (P is for Paradigm) to succeed, so must the following practice (P is for Practice) or experiment:

    “Two in five [gays] inhale poppers, or amyl nitrate … [ie. 40%]
    they make you bleed more easily – not good if you or your partner has HIV”.
    Welcome to the Post-AID$ World
    Australian Financial Review 04/07/2008, Rev p10″

    P is for PostAIDSworld

    January 21, 2011 | 9:25 pm
  4. L E says:

    This is quite a mystery. The truth is starting to shed its light.

    Check out:
    http://levin.senate.gov/newsroom/supporting/2008/071708PSIReport.pdf p3, Table of Contents, part III.
    Names such as Lowy, Marsh, Wu, Greenfield, Gonzalez, Chong,
    Miskin, greedy Liechtenstein and Swiss bank practices.

    They’ve been doing this for how long?

    January 21, 2011 | 11:57 pm
  5. BJ2011 says:

    Australia seems to be a happening place when it comes to sensible and informed discussion and debate regarding AIDS and its truths. At least as far as the web is concerned. Not that you’ll ever see a squeek from the media, not with suppression orders, guilty consciences, or downright ongoing drug advertising by one’s own community. Right under everyone’s noses a “poisoned generation”. Poisoned by dogama, complacency, greet, apathy, trust, and one great big con.

    I have a sense that Bono knows what going on. He was in Sydney last World AIDS Day. He stated that AIDS and HIV would be gone by 2015. Seems like HIV already is, with some ruse over Swine Flu going pandemic instantly. It was already there as Spanish Flu. Will the spin not end? Anyway, if the true causes of illness/AIDS are now treated, his projections are very reasonable.

    Tim Costello stated that Bono was an artist and had romantic notions. Who is a true Christian Mr Costello, and who is making bigoted and stereotyped judgements? A Christian is a follower of Christian principles. These principles have been sadly lost in favour of judgements, labels and Swiss bank accounts. And Christians have been sadly wrong before.

    Not to mention Jews. I’d love to have a comment from the Lowy Institute about now. But might that not be a conflict of interest? A think tank, or stink stank?

    January 23, 2011 | 5:33 am
  6. GrimReaper says:

    Would you trust anything coming out of the ‘stink tank’ Lowy Institute right about now? No wonder we didn’t get the World Cup rights. The other countries knew more than we did. With the ongoing media suppression orders on swine flu, HIV, ‘policing’ of poppers, freedom of information, the rights of victims to know the truth. Basic truth, honesty and decency. Trust will not take flight until this happens. Until then, the Reaper will keep reaping.

    Obama’s Cairo Address snippet:
    “For we have learned from recent experience that when a financial system weakens in one country, prosperity is hurt everywhere. When a new flu infects one human being, all are at risk. When one nation pursues a nuclear weapon, the risk of nuclear attack rises for all nations. When violent extremists operate in one stretch of mountains, people are endangered across an ocean. And when innocents in Bosnia and Darfur are slaughtered, that is a stain on our collective conscience. That is what it means to share this world in the 21st century. That is the responsibility we have to one another as human beings”.

    Does this include poisoning faggots every time they have sex?

    January 23, 2011 | 7:18 pm
  7. BJ2011 says:

    Well I think all the AIDS Councils have a lot to answer for. All this dogma and progaganda in the guise of caring. I was told by the Health Department that the AIDS Councils were fulfilling their CONTRACTUAL obligations, if not their COMMUNITY obligations. I would have thought the latter was more important. Not profit. Obviously not in this day and age -of greed, ignorance, Swiss bank accounts and total lack of honesty and accountability.

    Talk about research. I have the AIDS Council of NSW basically saying that alkyl nitrites should “only be used as instructed”. Well if you read the bottle it sometimes says “Do not inhale”. Scary enuf. Well the AIDS Council of SA says poppers can produce a whole lot of horrible results including lesions and cancer. The community must not condone this risky and dangerous behaviour, and I don’t mean by the ongoing victims, who are being lied to yet again/still. I mean by the AIDS Councils, politicians, medicos, media, public/civil servants, and authorities themselves, and this includes the Church. The AIDS Council of WA lists this as “An Ongoing Culture”. And they call this a conspiracy theory. Against whom.

    And I tell you, GOD will be the judge, not you.

    January 26, 2011 | 7:27 pm
  8. SwineHIN1SpanishHIV1_virus says:

    And notice:
    Who do they arrest first? The victims.
    Who will they tell last? The victims.

    Galatians
    The Fruit Of The Spirit – II (5:22-23)
    There are nine graces: Love, Joy, Peace, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, Self-control, and Longsuffering.

    Time for our long suffering to be over! We have been patient, forbearing, persevering, constant, steadfast, and enduring. We have met all the right criteria.

    “Longsuffering is that quality of self-restraint in the face of provocation which does not hastily retaliate or promptly punish. It is the opposite of anger and is associated with mercy, and is used of God.” – Vine

    It is the “Pink Rhinoceros” – docile unless provoked.

    The truth about Swine/H1N1/Spanish/HIV1_virus is coming to light. So will the truth in time. Let’s hope it includes a lot more kindness and mercy.

    January 26, 2011 | 8:14 pm
  9. Glenn (Amyl Nitrite Awareness League) says:

    Out state Substance Abuse Minister wrote to us and stated that “We must tackle Supply and Education”. I guess the next obvious question is “When, exactly, are they planning to commence both”? Have they already started, but only told the general public?

    Do you see evidence of “tackling” happening, as a general member of the public? Particularly with the media suppression orders and cover-ups.

    The same Minister suggested the suppression orders would “protect the vulnerable”. How can this be, when it is likely the victims will be the last to know. Here “the vulnerable” uses an old definition, where those who may have helped create “the mess” in the first place, are now protected.
    And the first that are arrested are the victims, without a protest from the community.

    “Honest, decent, responsible and accountable”.
    But when ???

    January 26, 2011 | 8:39 pm
  10. L E says:

    2008. Australia’s 4 Corners current affairs program:
    “CARL LEVIN, US SENATOR: His revelations are explosive”.

    http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/content/2008/s2383439.htm

    January 26, 2011 | 9:10 pm
  11. Serena Anderlini says:

    Thank you, Maria Grazia, and Terry and David for bringing such fresh perspectives on what damages medicine based on fear makes around the world. Medicine is a devotion and an art, before being a science. It should never be a business. The Hippocratic Oath has been forgotten, as has the Greek idea that ‘pahrmakon’ means poison. Wishing the best to all the gay men who choose to believe they are healthy and not in need of any toxic drugs. Namaste, Serena

    January 29, 2011 | 9:07 pm
  12. Serena Anderlini says:

    Oh, and by the way, one might want to check out my dialogs about this stuff: why it’s important to call dissenters by their own name, and not ‘denislists,’ and how anal pleasure can be part of a holistic sexual health paradigm when AIDS is interpreted in a more ecosexual manner. It’s all in The G Tales, check it out on Poly Planet GAIA:

    http://polyplanet.blogspot.com/search/label/G%20Tales%3A%20What%27s%20in%20a%20Word%3F

    http://polyplanet.blogspot.com/search/label/G%20Tales%3A%20A%20Gut%20Feeling

    January 29, 2011 | 9:59 pm
  13. SwineHIN1SpanishHIV1_virus says:

    Call them denialists or call them dissenters.
    Call them dissidents or call them skeptics.
    Call them religious or call them agnostic.
    Call them positive or call them negative.
    Call it Swine Flu, Spanish Flu, HIV1, or call it H1N1.

    Labels are a diversion from real, objective, accountable, responsible, decent and truthful moral and ethical behaviour.

    “Freedom from Fear” should not be matched with “Freedom from Truth”.

    Did someone mention secret accounts in tax havens?:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noU5dRoPIX4
    Not only hiding tax but hiding certain dubious business activities. His revelations are explosive.
    How positive are you Swine Flu?

    I’m absolutely positive!

    January 31, 2011 | 3:29 am
  14. GrimReaper says:

    From my understanding Frank Lowy has no part in this controversy, other than the World Cup bid which perhaps should have had someone else at the helm. Anyway, it is not about families and family names. It is about behaviour. Very dubious behaviour, by a very large number of people, for a considerable amount of time! People who you would have thought would have known better:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/g20-summit/5096348/G20-summit-Blacklisted-tax-havens-face-sanctions.html
    The G20 Summits are crucial to solving “this mess”. And a new world order. One not based on opportunism, ignorance, dogma, fear, violence, corruption, money and conflict.

    Otherwise the Reaper will keep a reapin’.

    January 31, 2011 | 10:28 pm
  15. L E says:

    Gee, if I were an extra-terrestial who arrived in the early 1980’s you might even have accussed me of releasing a deadly virus and introducting poisonous inhalants into the community. I would have been labelled a terrorist and violent alien, for poisoning certain demographics who, ironically, were in greater need and were thus neglected and ignored by the medical and scientific establishment.

    When one poses the question of whether we think whole sections of the community could possibly have be poisoned like in the last Holocaust, but this time right under our noses, for quite a long time, and like a sick and insane experiment?

    The answer is “Oops, we already have!”
    http://www.mail-archive.com/cia-drugs@yahoogroups.com/msg10687.html

    February 1, 2011 | 12:24 am
  16. GrimReaper says:

    OK, L E, you are either a twisted alien, or very smart.

    What are the human races other than just a bunch of constantly waring tribes, fighting over truth, power, god or capital.

    The human races are but a passing experiment. Too emotional than dinosaurs, who reigned for far much longer, bar for bad luck and a stray asteroid.

    “The lord hath said to me that this experiment will be simple. The species will be wiped out again, not by a stray asteriod, or great flood, but this time by their own hands. The irony: they will be responsible for their own extinction.
    Experiment over”.

    But the Reaper will always keep on reapin’.
    On this planet, as well as other.

    February 1, 2011 | 12:39 am
  17. FabianCR says:

    I am really glad that you include Maria!
    I was a bit informed about Monarcas in Mexico and I knew that there was a big group in Peru.
    I hope I can join you in the next meeting!

    Gracias aria por todo el trabajo que haces! A muchos les abres los ojos con respecto a esta realidad! Sigue pa’ lante!

    February 18, 2011 | 7:07 am
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