Episode 91: Dr. David Rasnick Finds No Evidence that Ebola Has Ever Been Isolated in a Human Being -- Does This Sound Familiar? [ 54 min 12 s | 24.81 MB ] Play Now | Play in Popup | Download (2700)“There is no objective, reliable or authentic evidence that Ebola has ever been isolated from a human being,” says biochemist David Rasnick, Ph.D. Should you believe this scientist or the well-known picture of the yarn-like virus said to be decimating West Africans — literally as we speak in November 2014? When the U.S. Centers for Disease Control warns of a “Zombie Apocalypse,” it may be time to question who is defining your reality. . . .
It’s been 37 years since publication of the first three papers claiming “isolation and partial characterization” of a virus alleged to cause hemorrhagic (bleeding) fever. Today, the evidence that what they discovered came from a human being is still unconvincing, the electron micrographs are murky and show only a single or a few particles, and the diagnostic tests are admittedly flawed.
But don’t take our word for it. Listen and decide for yourself if what Dr. Rasnick says makes more sense than a “Zombie Pandemic” and widespread panic over something that notably has not spread to the West, despite being sold as an “epidemic” since March.
You almost heard it here first. Investigative reporter Jon Rappoport’s November 3 “Bombshell” article quoting Dr. Rasnick and Dr. James Tracy’s excellent Realpolitik Podcast with Rappoport are both linkable from the scientist’s Web site (see column on right side). From “Ebola Files,” you can peek into Dr. Rasnick’s personal literature search on Dropbox, which includes several of the scientific documents discussed here. Rappoport has put together a compilation of his own articles on Ebola.
“How Positive Are You” previously took on the Ebola “epidemic,” “crisis,” “phenomenon,” public relations campaign, what-have-you, in Episode 89 with Professor Helen Lauer of the University of Ghana, and in an “XTRA” posting of HPAY co-host David Crowe’s scientific review on “The Infectious Myth” Podcast. It was even mentioned in Episode 90 with former pharmaceutical executive John Virapen, who alleged that governments and drug companies routinely orchestrate similar disease crises. And need we even mention that this whole mess follows the same template for research, propaganda and questionable diagnoses that created “AIDS”?
Dr. Rasnick mentions two books, Disciplined Minds and Democracy Incorporated (author interviewed here), in reference to how American citizens and professionals learn to stop thinking altogether. Ebola is a chilling example of this process, he says.
We also mention a recent Nature article on the failure of mathematical models to predict the progress of this “epidemic.” Michael Leitner’s YouTube video on Ebola cites a CDC study showing that only 20% of those testing “positive” by an alleged diagnostic test had hemorrhagic symptoms at all, and a very recent article in The New England Journal of Medicine reported only one case of hemorrhagic fever among 44 alleged Ebola patients. A study in Gabon discovered high levels of false positives using an antibody-based test, and regular listeners of HPAY may be familiar with our criticisms of PCR-based testing, best known as the “viral load” tests for “HIV.” Dr. Rasnick himself commented on this in 1997 and 2003.
Dr. David Rasnick earned his Ph.D. in chemistry from Georgia Tech in 1978. He worked in the pharmaceutical industry for 25 years, exploring enzymes called proteases and developing protease inhibitor drugs to treat tissue-destroying diseases such as cancer, emphysema and arthritis – long before drugs of this class became components of the “cocktails” used to treat AIDS patients. Dr. Rasnick has more recently worked alongside Dr. Peter Duesberg of the University of California-Berkeley on the aneuploidy theory of cancer pathogenesis. He is a long-time member of the Rethinking AIDS board of directors. In 2000, at the request of South African President Thabo Mbeki, he served on the Presidential AIDS Advisory Panel.
Dr. Rasnick appeared previously on HPAY, in Episodes 5 and 32, and on David Crowe’s “The Infectious Myth” program on November 18, 2014. In early 2014, he testified as an expert witness for the defense in the Craig Lamar Davis criminal “HIV transmission” trial in Atlanta, which we reviewed in Episode 78.
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dear David, dear Ely,
thanks for your precious job, competent and informative as usual.
I’ve got two questions mostly regarding hiv..
I keep on hearing, over and over again – even in this podcast – that having antibodies against whatever bug is always good for you, that you are protected and safe, forever, and that this is exactly the principle that underlies every vaccination!
Nonetheless, I’ve also read that this is not always the case, since antibodies are not always protective. As a matter of fact hepatitis B and C, in some percentages, can become chronic illnesses, and that despite the presence of antibodies, which are then taken as a mere signal of an ongoing and everlasting infection.
My question is… Why are you dissidents so sure hiv can’t behave the same?
As far as EMs are concerned..I’ve got another question for prof Rasnick. If I did not get it wrong (I am not a native speaker) he maintains that when a virus causes a disease it can be found in huge amounts in blood and/or in fresh diseased tissues, in so huge quantities that it can be photographed directly there, without having to culture it outside the body, in an artificial environment like the cells cultures. Now, I have read somewhere (BMJ?) that Gelderblom himself said that you cannot take pictures of viruses directly form patients’ tissues or fresh plasma simply because, in order to be seen under the EM, the virus particles must have an incredible density (10^12 particles per ml?), something that is not achievable in vivo without multiplying them before..and that’s exactly the reason why cell cultures are needed.
Who is right here?
thank you
Benedetto
Benedetto; Grazie per il tuo commento.
I am a lot more skeptical than Rasnick about the existence of any viruses. And that includes Hepatitis B and C. I believe antibodies are caused by many things, including environmental illness (exposure to toxins, nutrient deficiencies etc). And doctors keep testing until they get a positive result, and then declare that virus to be the cause. The only way to prove whether HIV antibodies exist without ridding the body of the virus, is to actually find the virus. So until then it is reasonable to be skeptical, and it is up to those who believe in antibody tests as tests for infection to prove their case.
Regarding EMs, Rasnick is correct in saying that there must be a lot of virus for it to cause damage. No damage, no disease. Lots of virus, lots to see. So I think virologists have a convenient excuse. Generally, with cell culture, the photo doesn’t prove that there is more than a handful of similar particles present in the entire sample, so except in cases where purity of the particles is achieved (which I’ve occasionally seen), I doubt very much that Gelderblom’s targets are met.
But this is all a crazy argument because someone needs to purify a virus, expose an animal to it in the normal way (and it shouldn’t take 10^12 particles to cause an infection) and satisfy Koch’s postulates. But no virologists can do this for any virus.
Grazie a te David.. io avrei un’altra domanda da farti, se posso 🙂
Do you happen to know of the existence of any published studies/papers linking the “viral load” with the probability of infection? (I had an argument recently with a pos friend of mine and..it seems that the italian health authorities claims that if you have VL=0 then the probability to transmit the virus is something like 1/10000.. what do you think about that?..)
Grazie mille
It is their job to provide you with a scientific reference.
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