Onnie Mary Phuthe is a Botswanian woman whose story began when she tried to induce an abortion in 1999 by taking the RU-486 pill. Having very little knowledge of the drug, she took multiple doses, which resulted in intestinal side effects that almost killed her. In 2001, Onnie was diagnosed HIV-positive, and was prescribed antiretroviral drugs (ARVs), which she took for eight years. In 2009, she stopped taking them, after finding more natural ways to restore her health.

David and Elizabeth enjoy a fascinating hour-long conversation with Onnie, as she describes the ways in which she navigated this journey in Botswana, Africa. Her curiosity, insights and astute observations are perhaps what keep Onnie alive and well today.

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